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The Nonlinear Search for a Fly Vest

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I haven’t quite made my peace with that iconic bit of fly fishing gear: the fly vest. What I want is something to carry my gear, be accessible, stay out of my way, be reasonably comfortable, and not make me too hot in summer (I mean within reason – you can’t really escape the heat in the South during summer). I’ve gone through several iterations of this, and it’s beginning to look like a slow evolution that will eventually hopefully end at something I’m happy with. Actually “evolution” isn’t quite right. What it really looks like is one of those nonlinear problems in my old mathematics and engineering text books. The ones where you plug in a “best guess” solution based on past experience, common sense, black magic, etc. You solve the system and then adjust your best guess repeatedly and sometimes seemingly at random until you get close enough to the right thing. And sometimes the way “close enough to the right thing” is determined depends on the problem solver’s intuition, skill with black magic or zeal at pursuing the right answer to its end. If all that sounds confusing and/or completely irrational, well, these are the people building the bridges you drive on. And the fly rod you cast with. Luckily in this case, I just want close enough to the right fly vest, so no lives are at stake.

One of my problems, I know, is that my fly fishing is in a constant state of flux (I appear to be a rather fidgety fellow), so my needs in a vest are likewise always changing. My first fly vest would probably still be okay if all I ever fished for was bluegills, like when I first took up fly fishing. I only needed space for a single box (one of those clear plastic Plano boxes), a few tools, a bottle of CocaCola, some sunscreen and a can of vienna sausages, and it didn’t really matter how accessible any of that stuff was. That first vest came from the bargain rack at either Walmart or K-Mart. When I took up fly fishing for trout, I felt like I needed several more fly boxes. I’m not sure why. Buying lots of useless or only semi-useful gear is just one of the things you do when you take up fly fishing for trout. Maybe that’s everyone’s initial “best guess” in the certainly nonlinear problem of how to catch a trout. Whatever the reason, the new boxes didn’t work with that old vest. All the pockets were the wrong sizes. On top of that, it was just plain hot. It was 100% cotton and held water and sweat like a sponge. The shoulders had no padding, so all the extra gear wore on my shoulders. On top of that, it was useless for winter fishing because it was too small to wear with warm winter clothing.

So I ordered another vest. This time it wasn’t really a vest. It was one of those chest packs. I liked the idea behind it, and it worked well for awhile. I had these ideas of using the nifty little fold-down shelf to do all sorts of work out in the middle of the river, but that never happened. There’s the very real problem that it’s just plain tough to do much detailed work while standing in the middle of a river. I don’t really know what I had in mind. Vague ideas about tying up a quick fly or building a leader, I suppose. I have enough trouble simply tying on a new fly, which, by the way, that little shelf did make a little easier. But then I just ran out of space. I missed all the pockets on my old vest, even if they were the wrong sizes.

So I ordered a new vest, this time a more traditional vest in one size too big so I could wear heavy winter clothing under it. Actually, I didn’t order it. It was a gift, which is important. It was made of mesh, which I figured would keep me cooler in the summers. I liked the vest okay, but it turned out to be two sizes too large rather than one, and it tended to slide off my shoulders. I kept trying to use it for no other reason than it was a gift, and I felt obligated to keep it. I could have sent it back for one of the right size, but I thought that might offend the gift-giver (aka Jacqulyn, my wife). So I kept at it for awhile. This is irrational. I know it. Don’t try to convince me I should have acted differently. Sometimes I’m just irrational, which gives me hope that I’m beginning to think like a fish. A trout must be fairly irrational to hit a size 12 royal wulff during a bwo hatch or any other time for that matter, but I digress.

This was around the time I went on my “traditional” kick. I decided to buy an old school satchel bag to carry my gear. I had these images in mind from those old outdoor magazines of a “real outdoorsman” fighting a deadly trout the size of a Buick with a cane fly rod while fending off a vicious black bear with his free hand. There hanging from his side was a satchel bag! No vest. I loved this set-up for awhile, and I’ll still use it on trips when I don’t carry much. For example, the ideal time for the satchel bag is on a short trip up a small stream when I don’t plan to take several fly boxes and my big camera. The problem with the satchel bag became apparent when I decided to buy that digital SLR camera with a few lenses and a tripod, all carried in a hefty backpack. There was just too much stuff hanging around my neck at awkward angles. I tried taking the camera with a single attached lens and placing them in my satchel bag, but that just made it difficult to get to my stuff. Plus I purchased the extra lenses and tripod to use them, not leave them at home. I have to admit that I also missed the handiness of all those darn pockets on a vest. So I went back to the last vest, but the camera bag only exacerbated the problem of the vest slipping off my shoulders.

I thought a graphical representation of my vest search might prove useful in understanding the math involved. Certainly, I wasn’t consciously using my old math lessons to solve this vest problem, but as one of my professors was fond of saying, “Life imitates Math.” Okay, I made that up, but I’m thinking maybe it’s true, and I always wished I’d had an eccentric professor who said things like that. Anyway, here’s what I’m hoping for, graphically speaking:

Here's the graphical representation of my search for a new vest.  Technically this could be a lifelong problem, but I hope I'm nearing the end.

Here's the graphical representation of my search for a new vest. Technically this could be a lifelong problem, but I hope I'm nearing the end.

And so now I’m about to order a new vest. Anyone have a brilliant idea for me? Computers are supposed to make this sort of iterative math way easy, so I started plugging away at mine and found this: Fishpond’s Sagebrush Vest. It has a tiny version of that fold-down shelf from my chest pack. It has adjustable straps so I can resize it for winter or summer. It’s made of mesh, so it should be fairly cool. I think I can wear my camera bag with it while still being comfortable, and, if not, I can carry the camera and a couple lenses in the back with my rain gear and food while wearing the tripod on a strap. This is kind of one of those random “best guesses.” This vest just “looks” close to what I would like, with a blend of features I found useful in previous iterations. I’ll try to find one at a fly shop and test it out.

Take care,
Nathan

P.S. — As a result of this search for a vest I have a couple items which I no longer need. They’re still good, and I hate to see them go to waste if someone could use them. One is my current vest. It’s from Cabela’s. My only problem with it is really the size. It’s an XL Regular. You can see the current version of it here: Cabela’s Three Forks Mesh Vest. Mine is the Grouse color. The other is my old chest pack. It’s also by Cabela’s, but it appears they no longer make it. You can see some images below. I’ll let them go for $25 each with shipping included or $20 each if you pick them up. Neither has seen especially heavy use, and they are both in very good shape. Shoot me an email if you’d like one or both of them: tvanglerwebmaster[at]gmail.com.

With front pack closed.

With front pack closed.

This is the chest pack with the front pack folded open.  This can function as a small work surface.

This is the chest pack with the front pack folded open. This can function as a small work surface.

Side view of the chest pack.  The back can hold a good bit of gear, and there is a drink holder on each side.

Side view of the chest pack. The back can hold a good bit of gear, and there is a drink holder on each side.

12 comments to The Nonlinear Search for a Fly Vest

  • Jason

    Nathan, I always get a good chuckle, when I see you wading through class 4 water, with all that stuff around your neck :) I went from a wal-mart vest to the chest pack i have now, a watermark midge. with a name like midge, I thought it was going to arrive tiny. So I streamlined all my gear to reduce size and drag. The size of the pack was much larger(still smaller than most) than I thought. So the only problem I have with it now, is finding something to put in the back(water and a non-target flybox) to balance it out. It stays small when when its empty and organized, but if I need to cram a coat in the back, it can handle the task. Good luck on the perfect vest!

  • I’d say if you come to a state of desperation where nothing will work, you could take all the vests you have and piece together the ultimate solution to your problem. Imagine a satchel bag that has a fold down shelf, mesh shoulder straps, pockets for vienna sausages, and all the accessory pockets you will ever need for lenses and various other camera parts. After all, isn’t that what math is all about….combining different equations to come up with the proper formula?

  • Jason – I always get a good laugh when I see a photo someone has taken of me with all my gear, too. I look like a misshapen monstrosity of a fly fisherman.

    Insane – You might have the right idea there…

  • I don’t know which pictures of Nathan are better…the one where he is wearing an orange hat while fishing for browns in the smokies, or the one from yellowstone where his blue rainjacket is hanging out the back of his vest. Now our best picture together is definitely the smokies picture when we went camping/fishing in the snow. We closerly resembled the outdoor version of the michelin man, only in a more neutral tan color. Even the old couple driving through camp who would normally jump at the chance to photograph fly fishermen didn’t want our pictures. Man, that wasn’t quite our coolest moment….

  • Ah…the never ending search for the perfect way to carry gear… I switched to a lanyard last summer and it has been great. I use those fishing shirts with the big pockets to hold my fly boxes and I’m set… I’m thinking that I’ll probably get another vest eventually for when I’m on larger rivers with picky fish because then I want everything possibly at my fingertips. My old vest is pretty beat up but still works if need be…

  • David,
    I love carrying my William Joseph satchel bag when I don’t need much stuff. I just carry it around my shoulder, and I wear light clothing. But I usually feel the need to carry the full arsenal any time I’m on unfamiliar water. Add my camera to the mix and all my spools of leader/tippet material because I’ve started tying my own leaders, and it’s just a ton of unwieldy gear. My current vest would work okay if not for it being way too big. I noticed your talking about that lanyard on your site, and I think I might give one a try for all the little tools and such I use often. Take care,

    Nathan

  • Ok, maybe not the best of ideas….but I have also used my camera backpack to lug around both my camera gear and fly fishing stuff. It has lots of pockets and seems to work really well for the most part. The only drawback is having to take the backpack off if you need to reach any of your fly fishing gear. Of course, a shirt with a few pockets would be a great addition to this setup.

  • Hi Nathan
    Boy I didn’t relies that one needed such equipment for fishing, but like I told you that I am a beginner and for me its just about relaxing by the river or dam bank and fishing and maybe that kind of equipment is really for the pro’s. I see that Insane said that there is a draw back to this that being if you need anything from the back pack one has to take it on and off, which could be a problem if one is knee deep in water.

  • Amy,
    Don’t pay attention to all this equipment talk. All you really need to start with is a rod, reel, line, leader, a handful of flies, and a small box to store them in. You only need to start thinking about extra gear once you’ve gotten the bug bad and have no where to store all the stuff you’ve bought. Lol. Take care,

    Nathan

  • Amy,

    I never had the first issue with my Walmart special fly vest, of course that was until I went out and bought a bunch of stuff I never needed in the first place. For a fly box, extra tippet material, and maybe a few small tools (i.e. needle nose pliers, pocket knife, line clippers, etc…) you will be fine using just the basic vest. All of your fishing gear can be stored in the front pockets, so that eliminates the need to take your vest off just to access your gear. The back pocket on your vest will be good to carry things such as water, food, and maybe a rain jacket. I wouldn’t get to caught up in the gear craze as most of the time it’s more show than need. Once you fish for a while, you will begin to see what other things you have need of, and what things should just be left at home. Although, I’m not quite sure you will ever consider yourself to have “everything” you need…..I don’t! :)

    best of luck,
    Dewayne

  • HI Nathan
    Thanks for that, I am not going too worry about all the equipment, I have my live and rod and a small box of tackle so I think I am sorted. My boyfriend is off work this coming weekend and hopefully we will going to the dam to go try our luck and maybe this time round I will catch something, but taking a good book with just in case.
    Hope you have a great week ahead.

    Amy

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